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Trends in Battery Management Systems (BMS)

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Oct 30, 2026

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In this episode of the Podcast for Engineers, host Kelsey speaks with Infineon system architect Wolfgang Novak about the critical role of Battery Management Systems (BMS) in electric vehicles. They explore how advanced BMS technologies improve battery safety, performance, and lifetime by accurately monitoring voltage, temperature, and state of charge. The discussion highlights future innovations such as electrochemical impedance spectroscopy, AI-powered battery analytics, and smarter system architectures. Wolfgang also shares insights into a groundbreaking silicon carbide proof-of-concept capable of disconnecting 800V and 650A in just two microseconds, dramatically improving electrical safety. Tune in to discover how next-generation battery management is shaping the future of electric mobility.

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In this episode of the Podcast4Engineers, host Kelsey Markl speaks with Wolfgang Novak, a Principal Engineer at Infineon Technologies.

Kelsey Markl

Host:

Kelsey Markl is Head of Strategic Marketing Communications and Content at Infineon with more than a decade of experience in communications, content strategy, and storytelling. Not being an engineer is part of what makes the journey interesting. Kelsey approaches technical topics from the perspective of a curious outsider, asking the questions that help make complex ideas more accessible and relevant to engineers and broader audiences alike. Passionate about innovation and the people behind it, Kelsey enjoys exploring the trends, challenges, and breakthroughs shaping the future of engineering.

Wolfgang Novak

Guest:

Wolfgang Novak is a Principal engineer for Automotive Battery Management at Infineon Technologies AG. Accelerating innovation based on a solid foundation in Technical Physics from TU Wien, Wolfgang has accumulated 25 years of experience in the Automotive Industry, including 10 years in E-mobility. The expertise spans across Battery Management Systems, Systems Engineering in battery development, Cell Technology, QualityManagement, and Process development.

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Guest: We have created a proof-of-concept board that can disconnect 800 V and 650 A continuously in 2 microseconds. So it's really fast, 1,000 times faster than these electromechanical systems are.

 

Host: Yeah, it's a big improvement, 1,000 times.

 

Guest: That's a big improvement and it can help us to level the short circuit current. Short circuit currents can go up to 15,000 A. in such a system.

 

Host: This is The Podcast4Engineers, the show where we translate today's engineering challenges into tomorrow's systems. We talked a lot about power on this podcast, and we've even talked a lot about storing energy at large scales. Today we're zooming into the vehicle though, specifically automotive battery management systems, or ABMS for short. I'm Kelsey, I'm your moderator, and I'm joined by Wolfgang Novak, who's a system architect here at Infineon. Wolfgang, thank you so much for being here.

 

Guest: Thank you for the invitation.

 

Host: Before we start, let's talk about BMS because we're going to be saying the word BMS, this acronym, quite often. It means battery management systems. But what exactly is there to manage inside a battery of an EV or a hybrid vehicle?

 

Guest: So a lithium-ion battery that stores the energy in an electric vehicle has to be controlled by a battery management system so you can operate it only in a safe operating area in terms of temperature and voltage. And the intention of this management is to ensure the battery’s safety. To increase the battery performance and to optimize the battery performance and to increase the battery lifetime.

 

Host: I think a lot of things have evolved in terms of EVs over the years, including the battery management systems. What are some of the biggest trend drivers that are really pushing forward these changes?

 

Guest: So, I think first always is safety. So, you don't want to go into a fire. So, if you operate the battery outside of the safe operating area, you have the danger to come into a reduced lifetime and to get into an EV car fire. We don't want that. Yeah, we don't want that. The second topic is, of course, increasing the range. That means using the energy content in the battery system as efficiently as possible and also increasing the lifetime. So, in the moment, there are guarantees from OEMs about batteries for 8 or 10 years. And more than 150,000 km.

 

Host: Yeah, it's a big investment. So, you want to make sure that it pays off in the end.

 

Guest: Exactly.

 

Host: So, you talked about safety, performance, and lifetime. Let's talk about safety first. You mentioned safe operating— what was it?

 

Guest: Area.

 

Host: Safe operating area. What happens if your battery is not operating in the safe area? And how can we prevent from going outside that area?

 

Guest: So, if you're going outside that area— so, the safe operating area is mainly defined by voltages and temperatures. So, you have a minimum voltage and the maximum voltage where you have to operate your cells, and you have a minimum temperature and the maximum temperature. And if you go outside of this area, then you create or you stress the chemical inside the cells so that it reduces the lifetime, it reduces the performance, and in the end, it can cause a thermal event. And that's when we create internal short circuits. It can lead even to a fire, as mentioned before. Yes.

 

Host: I mean, it sounds like there's a lot of complicated things going on in a battery. What are some of the biggest challenges that designers have when compensating for this complication?

 

Guest: There is, of course, keeping the cells inside this operating area. You have to detect the voltage of the cells very accurately. And you have to detect the temperature of the cells. And unfortunately, we do not have temperature sensors inside the cells because it would be too expensive and also not so easy to implement a temperature sensor into that cell. We are measuring the temperature outside of the cell and then estimating the cell temperature, also according to the load situation and the voltage that we measure. And there is a second point in terms of safety that we have to recognize, and that is electrical safety. So, you have very high power and you have very high energy. So, electrical car batteries are handling 800 volts up to 1,000 volts and also delivering currents of 1,000 and more amperes. So, that's a very great challenge. You cannot disconnect and handle that safely. Okay.

 

Host: Are there any— so how are we handling it right now?

 

Guest: We are handling that right now. We are measuring the voltage of the cells. I mentioned the estimation of the temperature of the cells. And in safety terms, we are disconnecting that with mechanical relays in the moment. And these mechanical relays are protected by melting fuses or by pyrofuses. So that means If you have to disconnect 1,000 amperes, there is a very high current and you can create an arc. If you disconnect mechanical contactors, you can create an arc and that can lead to welding, and the contacts of these relays can weld together. Then you are not able to disconnect anymore. Mm-hmm. And that's the reason why you need this melting fuse or a pyrofuse that is controlled with a pyrotechnical element. And you can fire it at a certain amount of current, and then you can disconnect the high energy from the powertrain.

 

Host: Okay. So, so this is like the— is this the future then already that you're describing here, or are we—

 

Guest: No, in future we will have different methods. So for the detection of the thermal runaway and for safety, we will use different measurement methods. So like, for example, electrochemical impedance spectroscopy in future. that will be much more accurate and will give us a much better calculation of the cell temperature inside than these estimation methods that we use now. So that is one point. And in terms of electrical safety, we will use semiconductor switches in future that are able to disconnect the battery from the powertrain much faster than these electromechanical components can do now.

 

Host: Are we talking about certain materials like wide bandgaps, silicon carbide, or is it a different type of technology?

 

Guest: We are talking about silicon carbide in the moment that's going up to 1,000 V, above 1,000 V, and can handle these high currents. And we have created a proof-of-concept board that can disconnect 800 V and 650 A continuously in 2 microseconds. So, it's really fast, 1,000 times faster than these electromechanical systems are.

 

Host: Yeah, it's a big improvement, 1,000 times.

 

Guest: That's a big improvement. And it can help us to level the short circuit current. Short circuit currents can go up to 15,000 A in such a system, depending on the whole system configuration and on the impedance in the system. But if we can disconnect in 2 microseconds, we can level it down to around 200 to 500 A. And that's a different story.

 

Host: Okay. You mentioned a total of 3. So after safety came performance, right? And I don't know that a lot of people associate electric vehicles with performance in terms of pedal to the metal gas speed. But maybe you have an opinion on that.

 

Guest: I have an opinion on battery and electric vehicles. Electric cars are creating high accelerations, very high accelerations. That's on— the reason is, first, the torque that is available in an electrical motor instantly. Mm-hmm. And the second one is, of course, the high energy and the high power that can be provided by the electrical system. And so you can create accelerations in sports cars for less than 3 seconds from 0 to 100 km per hour.

 

Host: Yeah. Which seems pretty fast.

 

Guest: It's pretty fast.

 

Host: Yeah. So, but I bet this puts a lot of strain on the battery, and it makes it even more important that we have good battery performance, that we're able to measure it and improve it. Right. So what are some of the things that we're doing to measure battery performance or to improve it?

 

Guest: To improve the battery performance, we have to calculate and it's the same It's the same story. So we are measuring the voltage and we are measuring the temperature. And so you need to have a very accurate measurement of the voltage and of the current, also of the current, so that you can always know where you stand and you don't have to add safety buffers. If you have to need to add safety buffers, you need to limit your energy content that you can use out of the battery. And the second one is we have to avoid chemical processes that lead to faster aging. And that's very important for charging the system, for example. So you have to limit the charging current so that you can really do a fast charging, but you are not exceeding the current so that it would come to lithium plating or to really damage of the chemical system. So, and in the meantime, there are fast charging rates of around 10 to 15 minutes from 10 to 80% state of charge are very common.

 

Host: Yeah. On the Autobahn, on the highways, do you see chargers?

 

Guest: Yes, it's becoming more and more. So it's a lot. And you have a very good charging net and charging grid in Europe. You have charging stations nearly everywhere, so it's not a problem. If you go out of Europe and if you go to not so industrialized regions, it's a little bit more difficult. Then you have more topics with charging.

 

Host: But how are then designers designing efficient systems with all of this in mind?

 

Guest: The design of these efficient systems really taking into account the state of charge. So we have to calculate the state of charge very accurately. That's not so easy even if you look at different chemistries. For example, at lithium iron phosphate, you have to do some special methods like coulomb counting to get this accuracy. And then you can really use the whole content of your battery, and you don't have to add 10% of buffer that you cannot need because you don't want to stop on the street. even if you have 10% of charge in your battery.

 

Host: Okay. And so monitoring the way that we're monitoring cells to make more efficient systems, does it look the same today as it did 5 years ago or 10 years ago maybe?

 

Guest: It was worse 10 years ago.

 

Host: Okay.

 

Guest: So but it's getting better. But we still are remaining to the conventional measuring methods. It will become better in future if we look at, for example, this electrochemical impedance spectroscopy. So we can—

 

Host: Is there a short word? This is a mouthful of words. Electrochemical impedance spectroscopy.

 

Guest: EIS? We usually use the abbreviation EIS. So it's much easier. It's a real bad word for a podcast.

 

Host: Yeah. Okay. But you said the EIS is going to make an impact then?

 

Guest: It makes an impact and it will be much more accurate, and it will be possible to calculate even in chemistries that are very difficult to handle, to calculate the states of charge very accurately and then really use the whole energy content that is in the battery.

 

Host: Okay. So you've mentioned a few states of words so far in the podcast, state of charge, state of health. I think you mentioned state of power also. Can you explain a little bit about what state of power means?

 

Guest: State of power means what is the remaining power that is in— that the battery can deliver in its actual state of charge. For example, if you look into aviation applications, there are a lot of drones and especially air taxis that want to virtually do a vertical takeoff and landing.

 

Host: Yeah, straight up and down.

 

Guest: Straight up and down, exactly. And that Takes a lot of power and that costs a lot, a large amount of energy. You always have to know where you stand because if you can go up, you also want to go down. It would not make sense to have not enough power to land because then gravity takes control. And that's not a thing that you want to have in an aviation application.

 

Host: Okay. So state of power is also becoming more and more important as well. Okay, so we've talked about safety, we've talked about performance, and there was one other word you mentioned, lifetime. Let's talk a little bit more about battery lifetime. Why is this so important?

 

Guest: It's important because if you buy a car, it's a lot of— it's a large amount of money that you spend and it's a large investment, right? Investment. Yes.

 

Host: Yeah.

 

Guest: And So, you want to ensure that your battery is not giving up after 2 years. So, in the moment, battery lifetime goes by, or most of the OEMs give guarantee to the batteries for about 8 years or 150,000 kilometers. The first results of, or the first observations of the fleets are giving us indications that batteries are living much longer than expected in the first development stage.

 

Host: Okay. So this first generation of batteries is then not even outliving the car perhaps. But I hear a lot about second lifetime of batteries and everything. Is this also something the industry is thinking about considering?

 

Guest: Yes, it's considered and it's highly recommended by politics. And so usually the batteries are living their first life in an electric car until they go down to 80% of their capacity. So that means 80% state of health. Now we have the state of health again. Yeah. And afterwards, the battery is not dead. So it can serve down to a much lower state of health. And you can use it then in the second life, for example, for a home application or for industrial application. in a stationary battery storage system, for example. And so that could be the second life that the industry is thinking about. In Europe, we have the situation that politics has given us the battery— new battery regulation.

 

Host: This is the battery passport, right?

 

Guest: Yes. It's also known as battery passport. But it's not only dealing with this passport, also dealing with recycling rates.

 

Host: Okay.

 

Guest: So, you have to recycle the materials that are inside the battery, and you have to use a certain amount of recycled material if you want to create new batteries. So, that's the intention, is to bring the whole industry into a circular economy.

 

Host: Okay. So, yeah, I mean, lifetime definitely makes sense from a consumer point of view. So, what is actually killing the lifetime of batteries?

 

Guest: So killing the lifetime could be, as mentioned before, operating outside the safe operating area.

 

Host: So the temperature, the voltages.

 

Guest: Exactly. So charging at very low temperatures, for example. If you want to put a lot of power into this chemical system, electrochemical system at -10 degrees Celsius, it's not good for the lifetime. Operating outside the voltage area and stressing the batteries too much could lead to some chemical procedures inside the battery. It leads to lithium plating, for example. Mm-hmm. That means there is a deposition of lithium, of metal lithium at the electrode surface. And that could increase the inner resistance of the battery cell. You create more heat. During operation. And increasing resistance could lead to shorter lifetime. So that's one of the main reasons. But that can also— there can be mechanical stress on the cells, leading to cracking of the material, for example. And all that could lead to damage of cells.

 

Host: Okay. And I mean, I guess we're also looking— you said the OEMs, it's very important to extend lifetimes. So how are we looking at measuring and monitoring lifetimes right now? What are we doing today?

 

Guest: We are calculating out of the measurements we do with voltage, current, and temperature. We are calculating also the state of health. So, and this state of health is always with relative uncertainty. And if we can have more accurate voltage result— measurement results, then we can also calculate the state of health more accurately. Exactly. That will be improved in the future also by some machine learning routines and by using artificial intelligence inside the microcontrollers and inside the software of these microcontrollers to make this calculation more accurate.

 

Host: So microcontrollers are becoming even smarter to adapt?

 

Guest: Exactly.

 

Host: Okay. If you're a designer right now who wants to start designing with these future ABMS systems, where's the first place that they should go?

 

Guest: They should come to and visit Infineon.com.

 

Host: Absolutely.

 

Guest: Because we are providing a lot of evaluation and demo boards for all the components that are inside battery management systems. We have finished a battery, a complete battery management system demonstrator where you can order all of the components on infineon.com.

 

Host: Okay, that sounds like a good place to start to speed up. Before we wrap up, I always like to get the expert's perspective on where we're going in this field. So where do you see automotive battery management systems evolving over the next 5 to 10 years? What's next?

 

Guest: So there will be special trends coming up. One of them is called X-in-1, and that's a kind of integration that a large microcontroller with a lot of calculation power is used by more than one system. And the front ends that are doing the data acquisition and the measurements are becoming more intelligent. And the line between front end and microcontroller will be a little bit shifted.

 

Host: Okay.

 

Guest: So that will happen. And there will be also different new methods for measuring the data, like EIS mentioned before. And there will be— this will be topped by the usage of machine learning routines in the calculation software. So, when we are calculating the parameters of the battery, we will use these new routines and then will be more accurate, create more safety, more performance, and more lifetime.

 

Host: Great. It sounds like we're in a good space for BMS, but things are looking even brighter in the future. Thank you, Wolfgang, for being on the Podcast4Engineers.

 

Guest: Thank you.

 

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